Quote by Mortiferatrinidad156Thanks
for the reply! I'll definitely check out Evangelion( why do some people say that
it's confusing, by the way? ), I seem to hear about it a lot in MT.
See ya and thanks again!
Hey, no problem; it's great to see
people interested in classic anime! I'm also happy to recommend Eva to
anyone...even people not into anime. Yes, it's that good...I consider it the definitive anime classic.
Now it is definitely confusing. I like confusing things, so even if some of it
didn't make sense when I first saw it, I really enjoyed it. Because of that, I
spent the time to read people's analyses online in order to understand it. After
four years, I still can't say I fully understand it!
I don't know if you will enjoy it as much as I did, and I don't blame you if you
don't (I have met many people who don't like it much). However, you should at
least watch the series (and movies), since it is referenced everywhere in the
anime fandom, and, like I said, it is a true classic.
By the way, I made my post like that to get the point across, but now I'll post
some more recommendations =P.
Quote by ATAndTruongSo shines a good
deed in a weary world...But guess what? The original PS2 was dissapointing, due
to the fact that the laser, on many occasions, died after 2 years. This is me
saying to Sony, "I basically don't NEED your laser!"
I'm sticking it to the man.
Haha. Well, I'm not a PS2 fan anyway...I've always been Nintendo all the way,
and even though they've made a few poor choices in the past, I've always enjoyed
their products.
Quote by BobaFett2haI should
probably, for future reference, caution you from invoking calculus in this
matter...after all, Leibniz was also well known for attempting an ontological
proof for the existence of God..=P
Yeah, but he was just calling me stupid, so that's why that popped out there.
Math is the subject I'm best at, so... >.>
It was a joke =P.
By the way, I do think math grades are one of the best indicators of
intelligence, mainly because there are so few people in this country--let alone
on this board--with a workable grasp of the subject. You seem to be one of them!
I'm curious, what do you think of physics? (I'm a math person as well--and a
physics major).
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Quote by DarkRoseofHellHehe, well,
math and physics involve more logical thinking and is exactly what IQ is. You
know, I'm a Junior and still haven't taken a Physics course... I feel like an
idiot... T.T Well, I'd say Physics would be easier than Chemistry (I hate chem
with a burning passion) >.>
You're in California right?
I am as well, and AFAIK physics is generally taken in senior year here..so don't
worry, you're not behind .
Chem is alright, I like it but I think physics is far more interesting..I guess
you'll find out soon enough (though who knows if you'll like it, I've met math
majors that want nothing to do with physics )
Quote by marfish14Ah, yes I see. A
brane like from string theory. I'm not sure about that theory, but I guess
they'll know once they get that new particle accelerator at CERN. Find some
Gravitons or Sparticles. Anyway, a brane is composed of an energy string
stretched to an unimaginable size. Bobafett2ha, what lab are you planning on
working in. Does the university your at have any type of particle
accelerator?
Yo, marfish14, this is slightly getting off topic so I brought it here. I think
I mentioned it earlier in the same thread, but I'm actually not going into
particle physics, I'm going into applied physics: semiconductors and
optoelectronic materials.
Can't wait till the LHC gets done at CERN and we see some results on the Higgs
boson or CP violation. We don't have any accelerators at my university (UCSD);
the physicists there just go to facilities like Fermilab or CERN when they're on
sabbatical. I actually have a friend (same class level as me) who's pretty much
dead set on being a particle physicist; he has a research internship with the
department and he is at Fermilab for the summer, as we speak! It's pretty
exciting, even though it's not ultimately what I want to go into.
Are you into physics as well? You seem to know a thing or two that I wouldn't
expect anyone else at this site to know.
Quote by alexjohnc3I was trying to
make a point. He was talking about how we've done horrible things, like eating
forbidden apples and not all worshiping God, and because of that we have to
suffer eternal damnation. Based on that view, I'd have to say it's God that
deserves the punishing, not us.
The part that actually annoyed me was this: "Science is better when proving
things on medicine and whatever else isnt related to God."
I usually try to have good faith in people and assume either I'm just ignorant
or their just ignorant, but I think he might just be stupid, not ignorant. I
don't know that for sure yet though.
Oh, he's definitely more than just ignorant. Otherwise he wouldn't be so blindly
faithful.
And ever since I read the bible myself, I also that that god is a sadistic
freak...a horrible character in a horribly written story.
Quote by alexjohnc3The god you believe
in, based on your own holy book, is a sadistic
freak.
Thank you. Sounds like you're finally beginning to break against this guy.
There's no use trying to get through to him, dense as he is. Might as well send
him to the Time Cube =P.
Quote by Shinsengumi89
It's because i'm Jezuz crist on eearth i can do anything! No but seriously
thanks man for the comment, so hows everything there in
cali?
Haha, well, it's true! Everyone started talking more after you came back.
Anyway, stuff is good here..I just got a job today; even though it's only
retail, it should get me some $$..which should help me in getting the next
Haruhi DVD..>_>;
I also finally finished the Fate route in Fate/stay night last night. Don't know
if you're into that sort of thing, but it was definitely awesome..
Your the first too have recived the message at the MT Athiest forum, again i
want to apologize.
So have you gotten bored reading the bible yet? I personally have started to
read The Assualt on Reason by Al Gore, i also read Brave New World.
So whats up with you?
Shinsen89
Heh, you still remember those discussions about the bible, huh? Actually, I got
so bored that I haven't read it for almost a year now. I think i stopped a
couple books after the Pentateuch. Eh, whatever; I don't know when i'll pick it
up again, if at all; it's so damn dull.
Other than that, I've been mostly busy with school. Actually, it's kind of a
shame..while I used to enjoy learning about religion, politics, philosophy, etc,
I don't really enjoy it much anymore (this is one of the reasons I'm not reading
the Bible anymore =P). I tend to just enjoy the things that I study in school
now.
So while you seem to be as literate as ever, I haven't read a book since last
summer =P. The last book I bought/tried to read is on the work of Russian number
theorists..and I don't know if I'll ever finish reading it.
Quote: Then, there is a
question.
The influence power of Evangelion is full in Japan.
I want to know the influence power in foreign countries.
Please teach someone.
Hi ykishige966!
Just wanted to answer your little question..
I live in the United States, and Evangelion is still unknown by most people
here. Mainly fans of anime know about it.
For my part, I have indeed shown Eva to a few of my friends, and now they are
fans also. I hope it becomes more popular! It is such an amazing story, and I
think everybody in the world should see it.
Quote by CosmoStar
How nice! I love SW but I cannot be called geek since I need to learn lots of
things... Your nickname is pretty selfexplanatory and 2ha is only a detail to
add a pop-ish look!
Thanks for the post!
Hey, good to hear from you! SW is great fun, you should definitely check out the
novels if you want to learn more and you haven't already.
Quote by Persocom01
Well no I don't understand information theory that well either, however I'll
tell you more about how I see it:
Information theory measures the amount of information (in bits) of a system. It
differs form thermodynamic entropy in the sense that we can't exactly quantify
the amount of disorder in a genetic information system. This is not because it
is impossible, but it is due to our ignorance, because:
1. We do not know the original state of the information system.
2. We do not know the language that the genetic code is written in.
Therefore we cannot quantify how much the information system has deviated from
the original. (which is what entropy in a thermodynamic system measures) The
Christian worldview, however, assumes that the information was written by God,
and gradually, deteriorated over time, resulting in cancers and other genetic
diseases. I'm sorry that I am unable to adequately address many issues. I'm just
an undergrad as yet, and in my major it is also unlikely that I'll learn
anything in depth about information theory. Sadly, such is the state of human
knowledge today. Due to our short lifespan and extensive knowledge, it is
impossible for anyone to posses first hand knowledge on all
fields.
Haha, I know exactly what you mean! My major is electrical engineering/physics,
which means I'll be going into the more physics-related aspects of EE
(semiconductor devices or photonics). However, I'm very interested in all the
facets of the field..it's unfortunate that I won't have the time to take classes
in the other branches.
Incidentally, earlier today I sat in on a presentation from the DSP focus here
at my university. The professor gave an illuminating example of information
entropy (though she didn't actually mention the term). If you're
interested:
Case 1: It's summer and I tell you that tomorrow is going to be warm.
Case 2: It's autumn and I tell you that tomorrow is going to be warm.
Case 3: It's winter and I tell you that tomorrow is going to be warm.
In which case did I give you the most information?
If it's summer, then you already know tomorrow is going to be warm, so I didn't
give you much information there.
If it's winter, then you already know it isn't going to be warm, so I also didn't give you much
information there.
If it's autumn, however, the weather is more variable..more random. Thus, here I am giving you more
information about the weather than in the other cases.
So I guess this is how randomness is related to the amount of information in a
signal. Ah, I only wish I could take some classes in DSP or comm theory. I'm
unwilling to give up physics though..
Out of curiosity, what is it you're majoring in?
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Quote by Persocom01
I like the intelligent design idea of complex specified information. For
example:
Case 1: hrdjbvkfzfe
Case 2: fffffffffff
Case 3: convergence
Assumming that all the letters were randomly generated, and every letter of the
alphabert as an equal chance of appearing, which result is the most likely to
appear? (all contain 11 letters)
The answer is that all cases are equally likely to appear.
However, which do you recognise as most likely to be a deliberate
design?
The answer is case 3. While it may be true that all outcomes are equally likely,
it is possible to differentiate one as likely to be designed while the others as
not. Information can be encrypted, or written in a different language, however,
it is still information. (whether the pattern is hidden or obvious)
We do know however, that it is possible to come up with patterns that look
designed by chance. For example, clouds in the sky might look like a rabbit with
correct cloud conditions and enough imagination. However, when a pattern gets
more and more complex while still retaining it's specificity (meaning), it
becomes more and more likely that an intelligent agent was the cause. GK
Chesterton expressed it as such:
"One elephant having a trunk was odd: all elephants having trunks looked
like a plot" - GK Chesterton
I major in civil engineering. Not doing too well right now, exams coming also so
I won't be very active. Feel free to post on my guestbook tho ^^ God bless
=)
Quote by Persocom01
Thermodynamic entropy and information entropy are closely related concepts. They
are basically the same in the sense that they are both a measure of the amount
of randomness in a system. When you repeatedly copy a file, do you expect it to
get better or to become corrupted? This gradual and inevitable corruption of
data (or information) is just what entropy is
about.
Well, I'm starting to see the connection..I think. And admittedly, it's not your
attempt that convinced me..rather, I read about information entropy
online.
My issue is not with thermodynamic entropy; I have a pretty good basic
understanding of what that is (I'm a physics major). My issue is that in the
context of information theory, 'entropy' is the amount of information in a signal. After studying it a bit, I
started to see how the 'amount of information' relates to uncertainty..but your
post, unfortunately, did not address this at all.
I wish I had a better understanding of information entropy..but I'm not going
into the communications industry, and I don't have time to take any information
theory classes.
Hey, no problem; it's great to see people interested in classic anime! I'm also happy to recommend Eva to anyone...even people not into anime. Yes, it's that good...I consider it the definitive anime classic.
Now it is definitely confusing. I like confusing things, so even if some of it didn't make sense when I first saw it, I really enjoyed it. Because of that, I spent the time to read people's analyses online in order to understand it. After four years, I still can't say I fully understand it!
I don't know if you will enjoy it as much as I did, and I don't blame you if you don't (I have met many people who don't like it much). However, you should at least watch the series (and movies), since it is referenced everywhere in the anime fandom, and, like I said, it is a true classic.
By the way, I made my post like that to get the point across, but now I'll post some more recommendations =P.
Hi, thanks for the fav on my Rei vector!
Haha. Well, I'm not a PS2 fan anyway...I've always been Nintendo all the way, and even though they've made a few poor choices in the past, I've always enjoyed their products.
Not sure what you're trying to accomplish here. gb2/b/
It was a joke =P.
By the way, I do think math grades are one of the best indicators of intelligence, mainly because there are so few people in this country--let alone on this board--with a workable grasp of the subject. You seem to be one of them! I'm curious, what do you think of physics? (I'm a math person as well--and a physics major).
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You're in California right? I am as well, and AFAIK physics is generally taken in senior year here..so don't worry, you're not behind
.
Chem is alright, I like it but I think physics is far more interesting..I guess you'll find out soon enough (though who knows if you'll like it, I've met math majors that want nothing to do with physics
)
KAMINA OWNS EVERYONE'S ASS
*manly tears*
Yo, marfish14, this is slightly getting off topic so I brought it here. I think I mentioned it earlier in the same thread, but I'm actually not going into particle physics, I'm going into applied physics: semiconductors and optoelectronic materials.
Can't wait till the LHC gets done at CERN and we see some results on the Higgs boson or CP violation. We don't have any accelerators at my university (UCSD); the physicists there just go to facilities like Fermilab or CERN when they're on sabbatical. I actually have a friend (same class level as me) who's pretty much dead set on being a particle physicist; he has a research internship with the department and he is at Fermilab for the summer, as we speak! It's pretty exciting, even though it's not ultimately what I want to go into.
Are you into physics as well? You seem to know a thing or two that I wouldn't expect anyone else at this site to know.
Oh, he's definitely more than just ignorant. Otherwise he wouldn't be so blindly faithful.
And ever since I read the bible myself, I also that that god is a sadistic freak...a horrible character in a horribly written story.
Thank you.
Haha, seeing work like this reminds me that I have to work on my own vectoring skills again sometime =P.
EDIT: Just saw your userpage, and noticed that you're currently playing Fate/stay night! I love that game, what part are you on?
No problem, they are quite unique and imaginative!
Haha, well, it's true! Everyone started talking more after you came back. Anyway, stuff is good here..I just got a job today; even though it's only retail, it should get me some $$..which should help me in getting the next Haruhi DVD..>_>;
I also finally finished the Fate route in Fate/stay night last night. Don't know if you're into that sort of thing, but it was definitely awesome..
That's quite impressive, Shinsen89! People as young as you in politics is not a common thing. Hope you achieve something good on that committee.
Heh, you still remember those discussions about the bible, huh? Actually, I got so bored that I haven't read it for almost a year now. I think i stopped a couple books after the Pentateuch. Eh, whatever; I don't know when i'll pick it up again, if at all; it's so damn dull.
Other than that, I've been mostly busy with school. Actually, it's kind of a shame..while I used to enjoy learning about religion, politics, philosophy, etc, I don't really enjoy it much anymore (this is one of the reasons I'm not reading the Bible anymore =P). I tend to just enjoy the things that I study in school now.
So while you seem to be as literate as ever, I haven't read a book since last summer =P. The last book I bought/tried to read is on the work of Russian number theorists..and I don't know if I'll ever finish reading it.
No problem, it was quite excellent!
Hi ykishige966!
Just wanted to answer your little question..
I live in the United States, and Evangelion is still unknown by most people here. Mainly fans of anime know about it.
For my part, I have indeed shown Eva to a few of my friends, and now they are fans also. I hope it becomes more popular! It is such an amazing story, and I think everybody in the world should see it.
See you around.
I'm really enjoying your Suzumiya Haruhi vectors! They remind me of how much I love this show
.
Thanks for the fav on my vector!
Hey, good to hear from you! SW is great fun, you should definitely check out the novels if you want to learn more and you haven't already.
Take care!
Haha, I know exactly what you mean! My major is electrical engineering/physics, which means I'll be going into the more physics-related aspects of EE (semiconductor devices or photonics). However, I'm very interested in all the facets of the field..it's unfortunate that I won't have the time to take classes in the other branches.
Incidentally, earlier today I sat in on a presentation from the DSP focus here at my university. The professor gave an illuminating example of information entropy (though she didn't actually mention the term). If you're interested:
Case 1: It's summer and I tell you that tomorrow is going to be warm.
Case 2: It's autumn and I tell you that tomorrow is going to be warm.
Case 3: It's winter and I tell you that tomorrow is going to be warm.
In which case did I give you the most information?
If it's summer, then you already know tomorrow is going to be warm, so I didn't give you much information there.
If it's winter, then you already know it isn't going to be warm, so I also didn't give you much information there.
If it's autumn, however, the weather is more variable..more random. Thus, here I am giving you more information about the weather than in the other cases.
So I guess this is how randomness is related to the amount of information in a signal. Ah, I only wish I could take some classes in DSP or comm theory. I'm unwilling to give up physics though..
Out of curiosity, what is it you're majoring in?
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Alright! Good luck with exams! ^_^
No problem, I really like your Haruhi vectors!
Hey, Kentaro, thanks for the fav on my vector!
Hehe, it was definitely an excellent wall. Did you message all 187 people that fav'd it? =P
Well, I'm starting to see the connection..I think. And admittedly, it's not your attempt that convinced me..rather, I read about information entropy online.
My issue is not with thermodynamic entropy; I have a pretty good basic understanding of what that is (I'm a physics major). My issue is that in the context of information theory, 'entropy' is the amount of information in a signal. After studying it a bit, I started to see how the 'amount of information' relates to uncertainty..but your post, unfortunately, did not address this at all.
I wish I had a better understanding of information entropy..but I'm not going into the communications industry, and I don't have time to take any information theory classes.